For years I have heard of using oil as an under painting for pastels. This was my first foray into it. I worked with black and white oils to establish the values and under painting. Once dry I added pastels. I have noticed that some of my values changed when I added color. I really think its best to adhere to the original value map. Fortunately I can make adjustments because I photographed the under painting. I was at Point Richmond and happy to be free of obligations for a while when I painted this. I used Fisher400 Art Paper as my surface. As to pastels I used Terry Ludwig and Rembrandt's. My desire here was to focus on the reflections in the pond and the limited foreground shadows.