This is based on a photo reference from Pacifica, California. The first one which I will post tomorrow was a 5 by seven inch study. This one is a little larger measuring 6 by 12 inches. This copper is a little thinner than the version I purchased at Crippen Sheet Metal here in Austin. The folks at Crippen were great. They cut the copper down to size for me and carried it to my car. I think I need my fan brush for the foam.